《星球大战》旧正史版老三人组结局,及与威世智等相关

  • ギナ
    星战现在就是动画漫画小说吹上天,一到电影弱如狗啊……
  • s
    savagealexander
    能在此回帖,深感荣幸

    信息量好大
  • 砂糖天妇罗
    其实我觉得应该发到“纯美苹果园”......
    正好星战TRPG今年再版。
  • c
    crazymarky
    震惊,合道强者惨遭二向箔版权打击
  • 凯洛伦
    不不不,能打的都是黑历史了
    看看新正史的一干弱鸡,一个比一个菜
  • K
    KUSOSO
    先顶为敬,慢慢看

    莉亚公主那么强???
    那么说到底,阿纳金是被黑暗面困住了手脚?
  • 钱坤一
    只能说,还好把旧正史给废了 和某些热血漫画一样后期刹不住车的扯淡玩意
  • 阿刚
    旧正史在奇幻神话的方向上一路狂飙,不刹个车怎么拍续集。。。
  • x
    xjtxp
    旧正史小说的说法他心理意志从一开始就是缺陷的,其实被人棍+煤球后他单纯说心理比之前还好了些,虽然还是心理缺陷(只是相对之前有所改善)+身体也残了。
  • n
    nohope
    也就是说单亲家庭的人更有可能成为西斯,即便当绝地也是低人一等咯?
  • x
    xjtxp
    卢卡斯本人说过阿纳金/维德有比EP3被欧比万人棍+煤球造成的身体伤害,对潜力发挥影响更严重的心理缺陷,但具体卢卡斯本人没仔细解释。虽然阿纳金这二货在EP2那种渣渣水平,自吹剑术超尤达就能
    因为卢卡斯本人说过自己很喜欢《帝国阴影》小说,还考虑过拍这部小说的电影,所以我觉得他这说法是跟《帝国阴影》学的。

    而《帝国阴影》里维德的对当年自己的评价是,阿纳金他是个“生来就有着瑕疵、意志不坚的男子(blemished and frail man from whom he had been born)”
  • d
    dkkiller1
    还研究这个?米耗子大人早就把你放进礼炮里打出去了
  • 黄昏之月
    维达的缺陷是他内心不坚定,如果他坚定的站队早就灭掉白卜庭了
  • y
    yinfu
    重启了挺好的,牛逼吹这么大战力暴走最后只有小圈子一小撮人会跟着自嗨了。
    后期这点东西和电影系列还有毛关系……换个名字一样跑火车得没边了

    -- 来自 有消息提醒的 Stage1官方 Android客户端
  • x
    xjtxp
    星战这些旧正史小说漫画游戏也就是几百万受众,跟电影确实比不了(其中大概只有二十万人是对重启极端不满),胜在几十年细水长流的给卢卡斯影业送钱罢了。
    但小说漫画游戏之类的影响力,本来就几乎不可能跟星战六部曲这种电影比啊。
  • x
    xjtxp
    至于莱娅……旧正史在这部结局小说级别飙升之前,她在旧正史的卢克时期新绝地武士团不算强。

    不过旧正史卢克这时期只有一两百人的新绝地武士团,在整个绝地两万多年的历史上无论是最强者的个人武力,还是武士团整体武力,或者是算平均每人的武力,都是整个绝地历史上最强的时期。


    这话是个什么概念,可能我这么说你不清楚

    举两个例子

    1.大概卢克三十岁时大约20多名绝地(大部分是学徒,卢克没参与)在雅文四号卫星的地表,隔空把17艘能够用轨道轰炸彻底摧毁星球地表的帝国级歼星舰推出雅文星系:


    Dorsk 81 tilted his smooth face up to the sky and held his hands at his sides, fingers spread. The stone felt strong beneath the soles of his feet, and he calmed himself, reaching within him for threads that he could spin together with the others.

    Kyp and Kirana Ti, Kam Solusar, and all the other Jedi trainees-some he knew well, others he had barely met-also focused their abilities. Dorsk 81 recalled how they had banded together to fight Exar Kun, and now he felt the same invisible whirlwind surrounding him.

    The new Jedi Knights joined together with invisible cords of light. The bonds were strong, reinforcing their skills from person to person. Dorsk 81 stood in the middle, the eye of the storm, where he could draw upon the Force, magnify it with a strength greater than he had ever conceived.

    In his mind an evil shadow of doubt flickered. He suddenly wondered if it wasn't indeed impossible to move such a huge fleet. His doubt began to grow and he recalled again the face of his elder clone, Dorsk 80, scowling at him-You'll never accomplish anything more important than what you could have done on Khomm.

    Why don't you stay with us? the younger Dorsk 82 had pleaded. Everything will be fine, just the way it always was.

    But Dorsk 81 wanted more. His life had a greater purpose. He had sensed that from early on, but had ignored it for so long. Now he was a Jedi Knight. A Jedi Knight.

    His determination formed a crushing vise in his mind that obliterated the doubt-and before he could be distracted by other thoughts, Dorsk 81 reached out and grasped the threads of Force the other trainees offered to him. He felt as if he had tapped into a huge power source, an overload of energy that he channeled through himself without hesitation.

    He reached upward with his hands, picturing the Star Destroyers in orbit: seventeen wedge-shaped engines of death bristling with weapons, loaded with more TIE fighters and assault troops. His thoughts soared outward, leaving the emerald jungle moon behind, and trailing behind his presence came a battering ram of invisible, irresistible Force that would be undetectable on any Imperial scanners. The Star Destroyers waited, overconfident, powerful-unsuspecting.

    He found them. Touched them with his mind. They were huge, greater in mass than he had imagined; even so, he used the Force to push.

    Dorsk 81 strained, touching the cluster of ships... but they proved immovable, too large. The Force held them, yet it could not do what he needed it to do. He tried harder.

    He drew more energy from the others. He could feel the determination and controlled anger of Kyp Durron, the clean fighting prowess of Kirana Ti, the powerful deep knowledge of Tionne, the grim pain of Kam Solusar, the childlike wonder of Streen-and more... more. He took all of the Jedi trainees within himself, braiding the threads together, becoming a vast and complex set of memories, strengths, and skills. He reached deeper and deeper.

    The Force seemed to be a bottomless well, offering more than he had thought possible-but as Dorsk 81 pulled it inside himself, he also felt the danger, the destructive potential: too much of this strength could be his downfall.

    He pushed again, straining harder, abandoning all caution.

    The Star Destroyers moved slightly in space, bucking and resisting-but it was still not enough. In his mind Dorsk 81 saw yet another wing of TIE fighters launched with orders to finish the destruction of the Jedi Knights.

    That must never happen.

    Dorsk 81 exerted his mind to the breaking point. His body trembled. His yellow eyes saw nothing around him now, because every thought was focused out into space where Pellaeon's Star Destroyers waited.

    You are a Jedi Knight, Kyp had told him, and sometimes that means we must make difficult decisions.

    Dorsk 81 knew this, knew it in his heart-and he didn't allow fear. The Force was with him. Perhaps more Force than he could handle... but he still had a mission to perform. No matter what it might take.

    All the other Jedi Knights depended on him alone, and he knew that this was what he had to accomplish. This was the deed that his predecessor Dorsk 80 would never be able to comprehend.

    Without a second thought, without hesitation, Dorsk 81 reached all the way down, drawing from the deep wells of Force that the thirty gathered Jedi Knights had opened for him. He took more and more without restraint, hoarding it within himself, letting it build as he absorbed the full searing power amplified through the Great Temple, focused it through his body and launched it at the fleet of Star Destroyers.

    "Move!" he shouted.

    The words themselves were like power incarnate, white-hot energy flaming out of his mouth, from his fingertips, surging through his body and burning, burning.

    The inside of his head went bright like a star going supernova behind his skull, and his consciousness rode along with the tidal wave of Force. He felt it strike the seventeen Star Destroyers, and they slammed backward like twigs in a typhoon. The Shockwave flung the entire fleet far out, cast them helplessly beyond the fringes of the Yavin System, their computers fried, their propulsion systems wrecked, still accelerating from the storm of the Force.

    Pellaeon's fleet of Star Destroyers went... away.

    Dorsk 81 also rode the storm-to its ultimate, unknown destination.

    The Force dropped Kyp like a severed rope. All the Jedi trainees tumbled weakly to their knees. When he could see again, blinking through colored spangles in front of his eyes, he saw Dorsk 81-or what remained of him-still tottering at the center of the observation platform.

    Though his own legs wanted to collapse, Kyp struggled forward to grab his friend. Dorsk 81 collapsed and fell against him. The two of them slid to the sun-warmed flagstones.

    "Dorsk 81," Kyp said, looking down in horror as the cloned alien's skin sizzled from within, as if the tissues had been brought to a boil. Dorsk 81's wide yellow eyes were now only smoldering sockets. Steam rose from his body.

    A breath of words curled out of his gaping, blackened mouth. "They're gone, my friend," he said.

    "Wait!" Kyp said. "Wait, we'll find a healer. We'll get Cilghal back. We'll find-"

    But Dorsk 81 was already dead in his arms.



    CHAPTER 47

    Admiral Daala's black Knight Hammer arrived, the second wave of the assault on the Jedi stronghold. The ship hung as an opaque wedge eight kilometers long, silhouetted like a knife blade against the pale orange sphere of Yavin.

    Daala's troops were on full alert, and her weapons systems had been powered to maximum levels. She stood on the bridge deck looking out over the sweeping metal plain that formed the Knight Hammer's upper hull.

    By the time she reached the system, she had expected to find Pellaeon virtually finished with his attack, so she could enjoy the final destruction of the Jedi Knights. But as the Knight Hammer sliced through space, Daala felt her enthusiasm crumble into astonishment. She saw no sign of Pellaeon's fleet in orbit around Yavin 4.

    The bone-white Imperial Star Destroyers were simply not there. Space around the green jungle moon was empty.

    "Where is he?" Daala demanded. "Open a channel. Find Pellaeon."

    "Scanning the area, Admiral," the sensor chief said. "No sign of Star Destroyers in the Yavin System."








    …………











    Vice Admiral Pellaeon had no idea what had happened to him.

    One moment he and his seventeen Star Destroyers were in orbit around the fourth moon of Yavin, engaged in their assault. They had encountered resistance, but nothing they couldn't obliterate with another sortie or two.

    And then they found themselves hurled across space as if a giant hand had slapped them aside.












    其实远不只是给推出星系,舰队被推得离原本所在星系很远……





    虽然这么玩的代价是挂掉一个
    其实如果这帮学徒堕入于黑暗面下手狠点,那17艘歼星舰估计早被捏成粉了


    嗯,虽然R.A.萨尔瓦托(R.A.Salvatore)——就是创作了崔斯特相关系列的那位,大概是觉得卢克手下这样玩实在不利于剧情。
    在自己负责的写死旧正史丘巴卡的《新绝地武士团》十九部曲第一本里,提出一个设定,中年卢克随着原力造诣与理解的增强,开始觉得在宇宙空间乱开地图炮拆敌人战舰的行为太过接近黑暗面,开始教育武士团的人即便能也不要在太空对敌舰乱开地图炮……


    说实话,遇战疯入侵时如果新绝地武士团还是十多年前的作风,面对遇战疯对原力直接攻击免疫这特性,没准那帮绝地能直接干出拿小行星跟卫星砸遇战疯战舰的事……








    虽然……考虑老萨在DND小说里的魔法描写一向让人想吐槽,也没准他提出这点只是不想描写某些高端原力运用?
    不过后来出版的,时间线在《新绝地武士团》十九部曲前的《索龙之手》里,也呼应了这个设定












    (这是日译版封面)


    …………



    奥图怀疑地哔哔两声,一张清单出现在路克的感测镜中。两艘破烂的科瑞利安炮艇,一艘古旧但硕大的卡罗斯巡航舰,船首突兀地焊有一座一样古老的KDY a-4离子加农炮,以及五艘科塞尔级袭击战机。所有船舰形成包围队形,逼近两艘几公里前上方的中型运输舰。

    标有新共和标志的运输舰。

    「韩?」路克唤道。

    韩语气紧绷地说道:「有,我看到了。好。你打算怎麼做?」

    【路克望向逼近的海盗,胃中突然一阵紧缩。当然有许多选择。他可以探出原力,摧毁船舰的控制表面,令其动弹不得,甚至可以只凭著原力撕裂拆卸整块船壳,或是扭曲武器装备;他也可以直接进入船员的心智,令他们只能束手无策地旁观整个过程,甚至强迫他们投降。对於与原力同在的绝地大师而言,没有极限。绝无极限。

    霎时,他突然全身僵硬,呼吸冻结在喉头。映照著宇宙的黑暗,惨白而清晰的黯淡身影出现在他眼前,是白卜庭皇帝(Emperor Palpatine)与艾克萨·亢(Exar Kun),两者均为他曾面对过的黑暗势力大师。两人站在他的面前,回望他。

    大笑。

    「路克?」

    韩的声音令他一震,影像也随即消失,但冰冷的可怖徘徊不去。他不应该做的事……】


    「路克?嘿,回神啦。」

    「我在。」路克努力回应,他突然发现自己口乾舌燥。「我——你来带头好了,韩。」

    「你还好吗?可以飞吗?」

    路克用力吞咽。「可以。我没事。」

    「是啊。」韩说道,很明显仍有怀疑。「听我说,你还是退回去好了,丘仔跟我可以处理。」

    「不。」路克说道。「不,我跟你一起。告诉我你要我怎麼做就是了。」

    「好吧,如果你确定可以的话,来掩护我。」韩说道。「首要目标就是摧毁那座离子加农炮。」

    路克深吸一口气,静下心思,伸向原力。两艘对八艘。就像过去反抗军同盟挣扎对抗帝国强盛势力时一般。他当时的原力尚不如今日,根本不足以增强他天生的战斗与飞行能力。

    然而,不知为何,过往日子的记忆感觉异常洁净,比他的思绪长久以来所感受的洁净许多。

    他不应该做的事……

    好吧。他告诉回忆。就当这是场测试。「去吧。我就在你身后。」他告诉韩。

    最初的那分钟,很难了解专注於猎物的海盗们,是否有注意到那艘古老的YT-1300运输舰,以及舰侧的X翼战机。不过事实随即非常明显,来自於包围圈外的突然攻击完全出乎他们意料之外。千年鹰号穿过两艘科塞尔战机中间,直到远离之前,都没引来任何攻击。而在他们好不容易发出一记毫无用处的增压雷射时,路克旋即溜入二舰之后,朝引擎各投下一枚质子鱼雷。夺目的双道闪光后,船舰丧失战斗能力。

    X翼战机自船舰间穿出,以弧形飞离故障双舰的射击范围。巡航舰开始将炮管瞄向他们……

    背后突然传来尖声警告。「我看到了,奥图。」路克说道,X翼战机开始一连串令人肠胃搅缩的急速旋转,趁著目前仅存的三艘科塞尔战机中的两艘向前急冲时,翻离巡航舰船侧。翻转中,强烈闪光在他的眼角引爆,回身一看,发现巡航舰的船首在闪光中化为碎片。「韩?没事吧?」

    韩的声音传来:「没事。我击中了离子加农炮,但它已经朝其中一艘运输舰发射一炮,不知道他们是否运作正常。你呢?」

    「目前没事。」路克说道。他的危机感忽地一动,这让他立刻让X翼战机再次落下翻转,一片雷射光切割过他方才占据的空间。高飞回转后,他停在其中一艘敌方科塞尔战机之后。离他把如此操练视为家常便饭已有相当长的日子,但他发现自己并无想像中的生疏。「这些东西比钛战机的盔甲还厚,但灵活度不足。」

    话才刚说完,他就差点得反悔。前方的科塞尔战机突如其来地往右舷直转,扭离路克的攻击范围,试图想绕到他背后。路克牙关紧咬,依样学样,数秒内,两方绕圈紧紧追逐对方,试图找到射击的空隙。路克以些许差异胜出,科塞尔战机炸成火焰与碎块。

    他的通讯器传来一声焦急的武技人嘶吼。

    「我没事,丘仔。」路克说道,向原力寻求冷静。方才太过侥幸。「你们还好吗?」

    「目前为止还好。」韩插嘴。「小心点——他们大概真的开始发火了。」

    路克歪嘴一笑,快速浏览四周。最后两艘科塞尔战机卯足全力朝他直冲而来,但他仍有数秒的反应空隙。他看到不远的巡航舰正愤怒地扫射小它许多的千年鹰号,后者正如牛虻般掠过其船身,并依序摧毁增压雷射。在另一边,两艘枪舰正与新共和运送舰互射,后者的武装显然比表面上更为精良。其余附近的运输舰自然是忙不迭地撤离现场。

    他皱起眉头,再度专注於巡航舰。一旦他决定不以全副原力对付海盗,脑中的混乱与紧张似乎便消逝。

    在如许静默中,他可以感觉到那艘大船的不寻常之处。他很久没有感觉到的奇异感……



    …………

    ——《索龙之手双部曲I:昔日幽魂》




    (这是日译封面)









    2.《绝地的命运》最后一本,一百来名绝地VS五千名西斯。这帮西斯是属于超空间大战时期,战舰受损迫降某星球的古西斯帝国传承,西斯的失落部落。实力么……反正似乎至少每个用点文笔描写的成员,都能像EP5维德一样徒手用原力挡爆能束。
    结果在阿贝洛思插手前,卢克没放地图炮清场的情况下,绝地是花样吊打人数几十倍于自己的西斯……




    当然,新绝地武士团实力很弱的年轻成员也不是没有)









    所以……即使最后这本小说开挂飙升前,旧正史莱娅怎么说无差别抽EP3阿纳金的耳光都是很轻松的
  • K
    KUSOSO
    感谢给位的回复,这个楼看的真舒服
  • x
    xjtxp
    另外,我觉得旧正史作品里最像真正的天神的是下面这四位Bedlam Spirits


    这个故事是出版于1982年,属于漫威第一次跟星战官方合作末期出的作品:



    ……


    同样来自《Classic Star Wars: Develworlds》第二集最后一个故事《Tilotny Throws a Shape》,原载于《帝国反击战月刊》154集,意境之深远实在为笔者独爱!这里介绍的不是什么文明,直接是一种没有实体的种族。他们被称为Bedlam Spirits,出没于脉冲星Bedlam附近的不知名行星。



    Spirit并无常形。


    EP5后的某一段时期,四名Spirits感到闲极无聊,决定以实体示人。他们的实体状形态随心所欲,其中一人Tilotny化为绿**子形状,并念念叨叨空间时间等万物都是她所创造。她的同伴Horliss-Horliss(蓝色云雾形状)、Cold Danda Sine(黑色脸谱形状)嘲笑其“设计”水准低劣。三个家伙虽然神力超凡入圣,甚至有能力控制时光倒流或前移,但说话行事疯疯癫癫,跟小孩无异。
    不幸的是,Leia被帝国追杀,落在该无名行星,期间发现一个尘封已久的冲锋队头盔,疑惑其为何会出现在这个不毛之地。三名冲锋队紧追而至,却与Leia同时惊讶于不期而遇的Spirits。Horliss-Horliss建议Tilotny调戏一下这四个“迷你移动物”,结果一名冲锋队变成晶体而死,两名冲锋队被融合为一只四只手掌四条腿的怪物而死,Leia则心脏石化而死。过后,三名Spirits开始觉得“现形游戏”很无聊,于是化为无形拍拍屁股走人。而一直呆瓜似的第四名Spirit Splendid Ap(粉色椎体形状)则把四人重新复活正常才离开。不过,Splendid Ap可没有什么时间概念,冲锋队三人竟然被还原到8000年前,死后留下的头盔,便是Leia一开始遇到的那一副。
    这个故事涉及到时空交错,Spirits的形态妖艳奇丽,其神通广大的法力与神经兮兮的心智的对比很有冲击力,实在是极优质的作品。不过星战向来不喜玩时间旅行的母题,所以Marvel星战在此进行了简单的尝试后,以后很少再有其他EU作品向这个范畴发展。笔者愚见,星战故事要玩穿越的话,大概也做到这个尺度就够了,千万别搞让人脑筋混乱更容易构造前后矛盾的平行世界、历史重写之类的东西。




    ………

    作者:
    freelee

    (此文完成于2011年) ”




    1982年推出这段漫画后,关于这四位称是宇宙时间、空间以及星球、人类万物的创造者,同时祂们也确实表现出操控时空,影响历史,改变宇宙物质能力存在的故事官方一直久未涉及。
    但到了旧正史,有赖于特洛伊·丹宁的推动,星战大背景设定上特别是原力这个设定上的大幅度奇幻化。

    此时星战官方曾经计划推出一部官方小说,讲述古西斯人信仰的神祗Typhojem的故事。
    这位被古代西斯人崇拜的神祗Typhojem,也做为被称为Pomojema神像首次出现在《心灵之眼的碎片》中的神祗被崇拜。


    做为Pomojema的神像






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    Thanks for the reference (and shout-out)! Typhojem was conceived in a novella I wrote for Hyperspace called "Supernatural Encounters: The Trial and Transformation of Arhul Hextrophon," which likely due to the end of Hyperspace never got published.

    He was Tilotny's firstborn, and is a kind of less-than-subtle reference to Cthulhu (after Splinter of the Mind's Eye's evil deity Pomojema who was designed similarly):

    "The first to come forth was a hideous thing the universe had never before seen, a tentacled grotesquery with a pulpy head, like a monstrous squid from the occluded deeps, but with membranous wings that drew forth from the dripping, bloated sack that was its body. Yet it was his face that caused his mother to shudder and seek to kill it, for it held a countenance of such unwavering malevolence that to look upon it for any length would be to lose oneself in madness. Cold Danda Sine laughed and stayed her hand. Whatever abhorrent name Tilotny gave him is not known, but Cold Danda Sine called him Typhojem, which meant ‘Father of Shadows’ (which has come down to us in the corrupted form Pomojema). Tilotny cruelly despised him, for she hated all things that were not of great beauty (though she was jealous of all that were). True to Cold Danda Sine’s **, Typhojem spurned his mother, referring to her in his own blasphemous tongue as ‘the great whore’ and came to have affection for his father alone."


    而这位被古代西斯人信仰崇拜的神祗Typhojem,官方打算设定他的母亲是Tilotny而父亲是Cold Danda Sine。


    母亲Tilotny




    父亲Cold Danda Sine




    父母合照













    登场的4位他父母这类型存在





    虽然没有很明确的说明,我是很怀疑四只橡皮糖豆腐块就是天神。
    或者即便不是特洛伊·丹宁口中,那超越凡人理解甚至按特洛伊·丹宁的意思,是超越读者能理解与作者能描述的真正天神。也至少是当初创造宇宙,超越实体宇宙之上的创世状态“天神”。
    而决不是莫蒂斯三口那种际自身受限于实体宇宙,虽然被称为天神化成了太一,但特洛伊·丹宁也明确说过太一人并不是真正的天神。即便真的曾经是天神,但此时受限宇宙太一人状态,力量跟当初创世时已经完全不具可比性的“前天神”。
    而是保有


    旧正史末期出现过是由天神创造了整个宇宙的说法,而那四只自称是宇宙时间、空间以及星球、人类万物的创造者,同时祂们这种存在确实表现出操控时空,影响历史,改变宇宙物质的能力。

    再同时,《战争必备指南》里对于创世天神的描述

    我看见由光组成的巨人,祂们可以同时既无处不在又不复存在。祂们比星云大,又比细胞小。祂们就像孩子们组装玩具一般组装着行星系。


    祂们就像孩子们组装玩具一般组装着行星系也跟这四位的漫画表现出的心性倒是挺像……



    虽然假如这四位是真正的天神,那它们的意志还是原力的意志的话……恕我不得不对原力的意志的智商表示怀疑
    不过按照按特洛伊·丹宁的意思,他们应该也不是真正的天神,虽然肯定远比莫蒂斯那种太一人状态高级。




    另外,关于上面那本最终没有出版的官方小说设计里,是Tilotny与Cold Danda Sine儿子的Typhojem:

    古代西斯人崇拜的神祗Typhojem,也做为被称为Pomojema神像首次出现在《心灵之眼的碎片》中的神祗被崇拜。



    挺像克苏鲁











    旧正史里建立古西斯帝国的黑暗绝地领袖Ajunta Pall旧西斯帝国的开国之君被古西斯人视作Typhojem的化身,当然这显然不是事实。
    旧正史里Ajunta Pall的阴魂后悔自己当年的做为,死后阴魂被瑞文给嘴炮回光明面。






    再另外:

    上面1982年出版的由阿兰·摩尔(Alan Moore)编剧的星战官方漫画《Tilotny Throws a Shape》里,莱娅公主那遭遇4位,并一度被其中一位成员将其心脏变成钻石而死亡,虽然随后被另一位成员复活。

    然后16年费雪逝世……总有点多年前的剧情一语成谶的感觉


    R.I.P.

    There is no death;
    there is the Force.
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