印度前炮兵司令《印中关系将深度冻结,除非拉达克危机得到解决》

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    mj348
    先问问他能不能背的出印度装备多少不同口径的榴弹炮吧
  • 锐锐
    呵呵,印度这样搞,只能是提升自己的威胁等级,会让中国改变一些战略重心,小本本上记着,肯定会找个时间干一下他的。
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    tilleul
    感觉印度承受损失的能力是本来穷得叮当响,也无所谓了。
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    jerry66x
    回复2#ihahe


    美国不是站在印度一边吗
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    zw555666
    原来印度要打核大战,哈哈
  • z
    zw555666
    说实话,扶持个印度人帮中国跟印度政府打内战,不要太简单
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    pdaguest
    他的意思是,常规战争他们认输了。

    这不就完了吗,还讨论啥核战争。
  • 展昭
    谁都能对中国极限施压了
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    nick_ni
    中国有这能力印度早消失了。起码诞生10多个国家。
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    yl003_110
    印度妇女是真的可怜,需要被解放
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    roain
    话说还真可以,先是邦闹独立,我们就军火支援HiPDA·NG
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    waterfish007
    打残打废了现在政府,搞不好换来十几个欧美支持的政府来烦你。猪对手做自己敌人不好行,干嘛要赶走别人。 一开始我是拒绝的
  • 既来之则安之
    阿三精的很,过了美国大选就会怂的。因为兔子真的会凑他。 iOS fly ~
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    joyfun
    一句话 光脚不怕穿鞋的
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    kony
    不不不,如果印度拿核武对付中国,美国第一时间会在中国头上踩一脚,最起码先把中国弄个半残了再来搞印度。。。
  • 学长你的皮带
    总结一下就是,光脚的不怕你穿鞋的。
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    xxxkeke
    真是光脚不怕穿鞋的。
    中国现在跟踪伺机动手先把阿三核武废了。
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    kgccc
    哪里来的假新闻么?
    查了一下,还不是
    India, China ties face deepfreeze unless border issue is settled |India Today Insight

    The winter months should give diplomats and the political leadership a window to break the stalemate in Ladakh



    Lt Gen. Vinay Shankar (retd)

    Delhi

    September 17, 2020

    UPDATED: September 17, 2020 21:55 IST

    

    Indian fighter jets have been conducting regular sorties over the Ladakh region. (Photo by Bandeep Singh/Sept. 14)

    Domestic commentary on resolution of the military confrontation with China in Ladakh seems to indicate that India should, at best, be prepared to settle for status quo ante (April-May 2020) or to positions somewhere in between. Should we?

    This is perhaps conditioned by the postulations of many strategists—some armchair—who dwell on China’s enormous force superiority and its doctrines of multi-domain warfare, wherein cyber and electronic warfare attacks harmonised by its advanced artificial intelligence (AI) capabilities will disrupt and paralyse our command and control systems, and then the follow-on kinetic attacks based on ground, air, sea and space-based systems will overwhelm us. The more informed amongst us must disabuse the public of such unfounded fears.

    Yes, the Chinese are militarily stronger. The force equation can be pegged at 60:40, give or take a few numbers either way. Based just on numbers and a marginal technological edge in the event of a war, we will obviously suffer more, but in such equations the capacity to suffer must also be considered. Besides, when we further examine these equations and factor in the imponderables of soldier/ leadership quality and ‘kismet’, the outcomes can indeed be unpredictable. Any or all of these together can turn the tables either way. So who knows?

    Having established above that war can go either way, let us briefly explore what ought to be the unthinkable between two of the world’s oldest and richest civilisations—the nuclear dimension. China does indeed have more bombs and relatively superior delivery systems. But China cannot be sure that it can protect Beijing or Shanghai from being struck by one of our nuclear bombs. Likewise, we can also not be sure that Delhi or Mumbai will not be hit by nuclear bombs.

    The big takeaway from all of this is that at the negotiation table we occupy chairs of similar sizes. Managing unsettled borders is frightfully expensive besides being terribly stressful, at least for the defence forces, especially when having to firefight such crises. More so when defence budgets are hugely short of projected requirements.

    Unsettled borders also thwart development and economic prosperity. Look at western Europe after World War II, which ended up giving a new template to international borders. If the 21st century has to be the ‘Asian Century’, we have to look at settled borders between Asia’s two big neighbours. There is no other way to improving the quality of life in our part of the world.

    Understanding this reality, India has earnestly tried. Since the eighties, our prime ministers (from Rajiv Gandhi to Narendra Modi) have invested considerable political capital in fostering bilateral relations with China. Consequently, for some years now, China has been amongst our largest trading partners. Admittedly, we have benefitted from this relationship, but on balance the Chinese have benefitted more. Not only have the Chinese gained more from our bilateral relationship but they have also subjected us to frequent bullying and humiliation. It’s time we ended this chapter. The only way forward is to negotiate a border settlement for our relationship to return to business as usual.

    China’s The Global Times has, of late, been suggesting a border settlement on the basis of the ‘1959 line’ offered by then Chinese premier Chou En-Lai. That we can assume is the maximalist position of the Chinese. To us, the McMohan Line in the east and the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh can form the basis of an acceptable settlement. Following the unilateral ceasefire during the 1962 war, the Chinese of their own accord chose to withdraw 20 km on their side of these lines. Obviously, these lines were also the Chinese understanding of where the border lies. Since then, they have chosen to renege on this position. In their strategic calculus, keeping India in a state of suspended animation on the border issue was perhaps advantageous to their long-term goals in the region. Clearly, we have been naïve in having played along. However, it’s now time to convey that we are no longer willing to be held in suspended animation.

    The joint statement issued after the foreign ministers of India and China met in Moscow on September 10 suggests that the Chinese are inclined to defuse the confrontation in Ladakh. We must wait and watch. However, steps to reduce trade and commerce and delink our economies, as well as the ban on Chinese apps, especially those that spin money, must continue. We must make it abundantly clear that without a border settlement, our relationship will continue to travel downhill and eventually freeze.

    Militarily we must remain alert over the coming winter months. This period ought to give sufficient time to the diplomats and the political leadership to arrive at a settlement or figure out the contours of our future relationship. The ensuing winter months should also be used to reflect on our strategies for dealing with unsettled borders. It seems that while we have learnt to live with them, we have yet to figure out how to effectively manage them.

    The author is former Director-General, Artillery
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    leelrs
    阿三是异想天开 动不动就威胁五常
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    xintiao
    先发制人,把对方的核武消灭
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    listtoyou
    战争太过重要,以至于不能把战争交给军人决定HiPDA·NG
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    zw555666
    回复26#yhkang

    你这是在说美国
  • 挺能说的
    有啥关系,闹就闹呗,打就打呗,灭就灭呗,这么大个国家就像一个大人一样要有点承受能力。
  • 大姨爹
    给中国扔核武器?那中国可能会损失几个城市和部分人口,印度可就从地球上消失了
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    howardhu
    工作中接触过各国客户中,最不要脸的就是印度人,包括散落在世界各地的印度裔商人,咋咋咋呼呼,业界公认利润率不到10个点的产品给他报价,上来就对折还价,脸不红心不跳。说过的话就跟放过的屁一样立马就不算数了。垃圾中的战斗机! iOS fly ~
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    lifeorange
    这世界太复杂,人脑处理不好,需要ai来统治。
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    lifeorange
    中国专家也是这么对美国人说的。