[FF12]耶耶!!姐弟情!姐弟情最高啊!!

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    exandy
    all subjective, even freud himself can\'t definitize hamlet as a case of oedipus complex


    what the heck is ophelia dealing with here? isn\'t she a counterexample of hamlet\'s oedipus complex?


    u know what oedipus did? he killed his father and married his mother
    all along hamlet\'s life he doesn\'t have any extraodinary relationship or even expression to gertrude, let alone to marry her
    so what\'s ur evidence that hamlet considers gertrude\'s betrayal is against him
    obviously, it\'s a very common thing that one will get hateful with his mother if she marries a man who murderers his father
    anything sepcial with hamlet here?
    or u long for a man who can blow ur dad away and lay ur mom down?
    then it\'s u urself is weird


    how can u find fear in hamlet out of this play
    see act 3 scene 2 line 115, it\'s hamlet refuses gertrude, openly for ophelia, secretly for claudius
    else, what can gertrude do to harm hamlet\'s life?
    even claudius, as the king, has to kill hamlet through laertes\' hands


    whatever...
    it is 2 funny, plz make sure u understand before u analyze
    coz i m 2 busy 2 explain the whole plot 2 u
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    exandy
    u gotta be clear with one thing
    that hamlet is trying to hide his feeling away from most characters in the play mostly
    thus his dialogues r full of pun
    u gotta guess what he actually means but don\'t yy
    his true ideas can be find directly in all of his soliloquies
    that also y this play has the most soliloquies in shakespeare\'s works
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    exandy
    misreplied

    2B||!2B...

    how can i del this-_-
  • 小水
    是对其他戏中角色隐藏感情,又不是对观众隐藏感情。真搞笑,不能通过台词了解角色心理,你说该怎么了解?
  • 阿普顿
    ……为何开始扯巴哈姆特……NO,哈里波特……NO,哈姆雷特?难道FF12里女主角是男主角的妈不成……
  • 用电器
    请看清楚“直接”二字
    我引原文行了吧 his true ideas can be find directly in all of his soliloquies
    这下您满意了?
  • 小水
    收到,我们就此打住吧,再YY大家就要吐了!:)
  • 用电器
    其实这帖为啥不沉我一直很纳闷……
  • 小水
    可能大家都觉得最终幻想还没有达到最终YY的境界,或者说大家都想YY出个最终YY,毕竟YY是人之天性,正所谓我YY所以我存在。
  • 雷文?简化
    松野想补完OT也不会用这个办法吧?[ro][/ro]
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    exandy
    是谁在搞笑?难道你连dialogue和soliloquy都分不清么?中文叫对白和独白,明白了?
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    exandy
    同上,对白是对戏中角色说的所以隐藏感情,独白对观众说所以直接表达,我那句话有“不能通过台词了解角色心理”这个意思了?
  • 桂木弥生
    姐弟X才是真正王道啊
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    exandy
    hamlet最后对王后说的话是“wretched queen, adieu”
    这句话仅从字面上看,三个词就表达了三个意思
    1.wretched:卑劣,肮脏,悲惨,都适用,典型的莎式用法
    2.queen:生离死别时仍然称呼王后而不是母亲,充分说明了hamlet对gertrude的态度冷漠之极
    3.adieu:源自古法语,表示“to god”,意思是hamlet替她向上帝致意,这意思也很好理解,hamlet认为自己能上天堂而gertrude不能
    再联系上下文,hamlet这段台词先向laertes致意,再向horatio道别,然后才顺嘴提了一句王后,最后是对群臣交待后事
    很显然,王后在他心目中还比不上laertes和horatio,如果不是有王后的地位只怕连群臣也比不上
  • 阿娇大王
    <h1>弗洛伊的是神,谁敢怪它偶跟她没完</h>
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    exandy
    其实偶素一个神父...[m]020[/m]
  • 小水
    歌德给哈姆雷特的解释或许是正道,不过也没有只许他歌德YY王子复仇,不许俺们YY哈姆雷特的道理吧?:)
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    mysister
    ……啥也不说了!看我全名my (e) siste =my.elder.sister

    和楼主及楼内部分同志嗜好相同……想见恨晚,不过不喜欢楼主ID的球员